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<midfavila>a shame
<dilyn>it silently fell apart after a while lmfao
<midfavila>i know it's not really a segment in today's market but i really wish i could get a no-frills 2D "display adapter" card
<sad_plan>midfavila: no, you can use velox with libdrm only, no mesa
<dilyn>plus mesa just didn't work (so I tried velox)
<midfavila>idc about velox
<midfavila>i use a real graphics server
<midfavila>smdh
<sad_plan>midfavila: I knew you would say that :p
<midfavila>wayland will literally never be suitable for my needs.
<midfavila>by definition.
<sad_plan>dilyn: shouldve just used oasis. doesnt fall appart for me :p
<midfavila>anyway it looks like nouveau hard depends on mesa which isn't surprising
<midfavila>alas
<dilyn>i strongly considered using oasis
<sad_plan>midfavila: care to elaborate?
<dilyn>oasis doesn't support even nouveau, probably for the same reason?
<sad_plan>dilyn: maybe you can find some inspiration in my fork; https://github.com/hovercats/oakiss
<sad_plan>dilyn: false
<midfavila>my entire UX is built around X's facilities
<midfavila>that wayland by design has no analogue to
<sad_plan>it doesnt support amdgpu
<midfavila>like for example Xt
<midfavila>i explicitly do not want gtk or qt or similar
<midfavila>or any of their facilities
<dilyn>don't tempt me lad lmfaooo I can't become this distracted
<sad_plan>midfavila: sure, thats gonna be an issue
<dilyn>oh do I have the GPU problems backwards
<midfavila>i want a simple, no-frills, lightweight UI library in C.
<sad_plan>dilyn: sure you can, have a peak now already
<midfavila>i don't need or want scalable fonts, vector fonts, theming, etc etc
<midfavila>athena is sufficient
<midfavila>also there are no good compositors imho
<midfavila>if fvwm ever gets ported to support wayland and a library that's similar to athena gets written to target wayland i would consider switching
<midfavila>but even then that ignores the slow adoption among non-linux unices
<sad_plan>midfavila: I also have somewhat of an issue with the lack of compositors on wayland, but im pretty sure I culd get by at the end of the day anyway
<dilyn>just be like everyone else on unixporn and use hyprland
<sad_plan>not niche enough :p
<dilyn>hikari is always there to catch us when we fall :)
<sad_plan>yeah, hikari seems somewhat nice. its one of those Ive been wanting to try, but I was mad about some font issues with foot, or getting st to work properly
<sad_plan>for some reason, mcfs fork of st, will segfault in sway or hikari
<dilyn>very strange
<midfavila>i dont want to just "get by"
<midfavila>i want to actually enjoy using my computer again
<midfavila>:\
<sad_plan>yes. very strange indeed. on sway I could not launch it if specified in the config, it doesnt work at all. I could launch it in from foot in sway, or if I put it into background on hikari.
<sad_plan>midfavila: I get that
<sad_plan>dilyn: I havent really investigated much past that.
<sad_plan>his dmenu fork also just never launched at all, giving me no output either which was really wierd
* sad_planshrugs
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