I see. ive had more than that on my laptop. windows, artix, fedora, oasis, kiss, and no oakiss :p
<sad_plan>
ive tried openbsd aswell, but I struggled with some drivers iirc
<sad_plan>
im also not sure i would be happy with obsd anyway. comes with too much stuff imo. although these sets is afaik, by design. removing everything you dont want/need is appearantly a linux things :p
<riteo>
ye that's the main difference afaict
<riteo>
embrace the chaos :P
<riteo>
and if something doesn't end up in your favor just shim
<riteo>
it's shims all the way down
<riteo>
yes thank you I really need pipewire-pulse-alsa-snd-mesa-linux-mac-wine compatibility layer that's perfectly normal
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<sad_plan>
I suppose so :p
<sad_plan>
I like the idea of building from the most minimal you can. only to add the fewest pieces possible, to have a complete system. I find it easier to start with zero, and work you way upwards with the smallest configs possible. when building, itll usually in some way or another tell you if youre missing something detrimental. openbsd doesnt really follow this idea, and I suppose thats fine :p
<riteo>
yeah indeed
<riteo>
also makes it easier to "enumerate" what your os depends on
<riteo>
like, if you have an easy way of building stuff it's easier to say "so I need this piece for this and so on", so that you don't have mystery boxes that you have no idea what they are for
<sad_plan>
exacly :D
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<midfavila>
kiss kernel when
<midfavila>
riteo unfortunately ur a batterylet now. acquire reform, hook up 12v lead acid battery
<midfavila>
live forever
<midfavila>
also re: ssds not a fan of the new ones :x
<midfavila>
going to have to stock up on SLC NOS models before theyre all gone
<riteo>
midfavila: wait are 12v lead acid batteries actually suitable for computers
<riteo>
also, what's going on with new ssds?
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<midfavila>
i mean im sure if you were really determined they could be :P
<midfavila>
batteries are batteries are batteries afaik
<midfavila>
new ssds are tlc or mlc-"3d nand"
<midfavila>
cost reduction measure that also increases size by allowing multiple bits per cell
<midfavila>
wears out individual cells much faster tho
<midfavila>
at least afaik
<riteo>
oh I see
<riteo>
if reliability is of concern I wonder if it would be possible to fit two (perhaps small ones?) ssds to stripe them or something
<riteo>
although thinking about it SSDs are packed with error-correction technology so perhaps it's irrelevant
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<midfavila>
for regular use yeah it is
<midfavila>
im just hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
<riteo>
ehhhhhh
<riteo>
im hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh to all SSDs
<riteo>
like they're a huge hack from the ground up
<riteo>
"so all right we got this solution that wears up in no time" "I know! Let's stripe it internally and do a lot of fancy maths that are all completely hidden from the user!"
<riteo>
in the meantime HDDs are literally a spinning disk with a magnet on a stick
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<sad_plan>
midfavila: about the reform, im hoping they release the slim model any time soon. then I might consider it. although im kinda afraid of different archetectures... not sure I could actually fix issues I come across along the way