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<phinxy>Does firefox compile without dbus?
<sewn>yes
<sewn>you can even keep the notification functionality too
<vova>For everyone having a SEGFAULT when building a zig project linked to libc, there's a workaround now: https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/21963
<riteo>sad_plan: I am just afraid that the battery will suck :P
<riteo>I mean, the folks I'm buying it from are quite honest that it's 5 Wh less than a legit battery xD
<riteo>I can't find a single compatible battery even *claiming* to be equivalent and I'm quite curious why
<sewn>vova: what a dumb workaround
<sewn>riteo: whats ur laptop
<vova>sewn: yep but it works at least
<sad_plan>riteo: curious indeed :p
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<riteo>sewn: ideapad 3 15ada05
<riteo>AMD Ryzen 5 3500U 8 gb of ram (of which 2 are vram)
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<sad_plan>almost the same as me. I have r7 3600U :p
<sewn>me with my i5-3320m
<riteo>fun fact, the only os this laptop's ssd (outside of KISS) has ever seen was kiss linux
<riteo>before setting up flatpak I had an arch portable ssd but it was pretty unreliable due to the usb3 connection being extra loose™
<riteo>USB-A 3 connectors are awful :(
<riteo>the ssd was for gaming™
<riteo>I still have it around but I think I forgot the encryption key so its data is garbage now, which is a good thing
<riteo>SSDs are scary uhhhh
<sad_plan>ive never had any issues with ssd's tbh. I suppose ive been lucky with my stuff
<riteo>oh the ssd wasn't the issue per se
<riteo>it was super crappy but does fine
<riteo>I think it was the sata-to-usb adapter
<riteo>and my laptop's ports being kinda crappy
<riteo>like, the regular usb2-only port fails to enumerate a lot devices, for some bizzarre reason
<riteo>and they're all super loose
<riteo>uhhh i'm dumb
<riteo>in the fun fact I meant (outside of Windows)
<riteo>as in, I ever only had windows since it was preinstalled and once I made sure the thing worked I instantly put KISS on it
<riteo>so I used KISS ever since I got this laptop
<sad_plan>I see. ive had more than that on my laptop. windows, artix, fedora, oasis, kiss, and no oakiss :p
<sad_plan>ive tried openbsd aswell, but I struggled with some drivers iirc
<sad_plan>im also not sure i would be happy with obsd anyway. comes with too much stuff imo. although these sets is afaik, by design. removing everything you dont want/need is appearantly a linux things :p
<riteo>ye that's the main difference afaict
<riteo>embrace the chaos :P
<riteo>and if something doesn't end up in your favor just shim
<riteo>it's shims all the way down
<riteo>yes thank you I really need pipewire-pulse-alsa-snd-mesa-linux-mac-wine compatibility layer that's perfectly normal
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<sad_plan>I suppose so :p
<sad_plan>I like the idea of building from the most minimal you can. only to add the fewest pieces possible, to have a complete system. I find it easier to start with zero, and work you way upwards with the smallest configs possible. when building, itll usually in some way or another tell you if youre missing something detrimental. openbsd doesnt really follow this idea, and I suppose thats fine :p
<riteo>yeah indeed
<riteo>also makes it easier to "enumerate" what your os depends on
<riteo>like, if you have an easy way of building stuff it's easier to say "so I need this piece for this and so on", so that you don't have mystery boxes that you have no idea what they are for
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