like if richard's the only troublesome folk then that ain't gonna make GNU flip over its head hopefully
<riteo>
it's still an important project
<riteo>
and the vast majority of the GNU related groups distanced themselves from that shit
<sibyla>
all weebs are likely suspects
<riteo>
what
<riteo>
do you realize how much of a vague statement it is?
<sad_plan>
the fact that he can make such claims openly, and not face any concequences, at all, is somewhat troubling tbh. why wasnt he removed ages ago? there shouldve been an outrage about it
<sad_plan>
the fact that he can make such claims openly, and not face any concequences, at all, is somewhat troubling tbh. why wasnt he removed ages ago? there shouldve been an outrage about it
<sad_plan>
i atleast wouldnt want to stand behind a person incapable of understanding basic things like the example i pointed out
<riteo>
did he not face any consequence?
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<riteo>
IIRC a lot of backlash happened and shit like that
<riteo>
and he actually got kicked from FSF, before getting brought again there, with yet more backlash IIRC
<riteo>
I seriously do not think that supporting GNU means supporting stallman's shit morals but I'm open to discussion
<sad_plan>
he was canceled a few years back, but they let him back in. im also not 100% sure if fsf felt forced to do so by someone externally, or id they did so on theyr own
<sad_plan>
stallman is kinda gnu, as he is their frontman and face. so when he says something unaccaptale, they should take action
<riteo>
yeah but GNU is distributed FLOSS stuff and it's mostly work of everyone. People tried to take action (and successfully did) but the FSF decided what they did
<riteo>
I can't weight the FSF board more than everything built around GNU
<sad_plan>
in any case, he says/has said numerous unacceptable things, and im not sure such a figure should be put in a position where his opinions can put fsf in a bad spot.
<riteo>
oh yeah I agree
<riteo>
but that's FSF's problem
<riteo>
people pointed that out
<sad_plan>
perhaps. floss is generally pretty niche anyway, so people might not card at the end of the day anyway
<sad_plan>
yeah
<sad_plan>
he is uncompromising though, ill give him that
<riteo>
I hope I'm not misunderstanding/stretching the original message, but I really don't like the idea of boycotting GNU because of rms' morals, especially because everybody mashed him down for that
<riteo>
if by uncompromising you mean regarding using foss, yeah, that's true and that's a good thing
<sad_plan>
personally, it only boils down to software complexity and size. aswell as some software will simply lock you into gnu
<sad_plan>
yep, thats what I meant
<riteo>
I don't like GNU either but dismissing its importance is naive
<sad_plan>
not dimissing it, just like to have some options really
<riteo>
yeye
<riteo>
BTW I have a huge BD-R with an official 25 GB debian installer image
<riteo>
that's GNU :P
<riteo>
you know, in case my laptop explodes
<riteo>
like I bring that with me along with a BR-R drive
<riteo>
meant BD-R
<riteo>
shit the tone of the discussion feels quite heavy, funny since KISS uses relatively little GNU stuff and can actually do without lol
<riteo>
yes, KISS Linux, I like KISS Linux, musl yeah, wohoooooo
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<riteo>
soooooooooooo what's up kissers, any new project? :3
<riteo>
soooooooooooo what's up kissers, any new project? :3
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<yeloxp>
i think my kernel config is somehow broken since i get the same errors when booting without the initramfs
<yeloxp>
but it worked on many other distros so idk
<phinxy>
Can KISS handle SSD disk TRIM? Debian does a weekly trim on Samsung EVO SSD's for example as its built in queue TRIM is blacklisted / nonfunctional in the kernel