kiss-community/repo still recieves updates. what do you even mean? so what if userbase is only a handfull of people? I would agree if theres no action, and noone is using it
<sewn>
ok
<sewn>
maintainers 1
<sewn>
maintainers that interact with the userbase 0
<sad_plan>
that would be more correct
<sewn>
also
<sewn>
a dead project doesnt need to have no users to be considered dead
<sewn>
i know a bunch of projects that are still being used by people who 1. have no idea and move as soon as they encounter a problem 2. will never contribute but still hangs on for dear life out of ignorance
<sewn>
like spotify-tui for example, dead for 4 years, actually broken - unsolvable, yet still has people
<sad_plan>
if something is actually broken, how could people even use it?
<sad_plan>
dead != abondoned
<sewn>
sad_plan: dont ask me ask them
<sewn>
"abandoned" yeah in my head i like to interchange that with "dead" alot, my bad
<sewn>
so kiss is
<sewn>
hmm
<sewn>
left astray
<sad_plan>
well sure. but I would argue that a project can be abondoned, but not dead, but if its dead, its also abondoned.
<sad_plan>
dead meaning it has no users, and no commits
<sad_plan>
morpheus linux is a perfect example of a dead project. it has no users, no commits, its also broken, because a lot of links no longer works
<sad_plan>
bearssl could be considered abondned, but after emailing the dev, he stuck with no idea how he could properly implement tls1.3. was unhappy with the spec iirc
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<sewn>
got it
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<farkuhar>
sewn: DistroWatch places KISS in the "Dormant" category, which is in between "Active" and "Discontinued". DistroWatch has a page explaining its categories, and "Dormant" has the specific meaning of "no new stable release within the past two years".
<farkuhar>
So presumably all it would take to get back the "Active" status is for a new stable release to be issued.
<kris_>
i guess the nice thing is that kiss kind of can't be "dead"
<kris_>
given id say most people have to repackage pretty much everything for it to be usable
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<sewn>
true..
<sewn>
kiss is a metadistro anyway
<sewn>
but it is dissapointing that it *is* one
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<sad_plan>
why is it disappointing that it is one exacly? I see this as a win
<sad_plan>
sewn
<sewn>
hau
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oh
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ermm
<sewn>
every user has to get very familiat
<sad_plan>
I see this as win aswell. it raises the bar somewhat, which might turn down new users, which.. is fine I guess. but it also forces users to figure out how their system works, which grants them knowledge. which is good for everyone