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<midfavila>always sitting in their rooms playing with computers
<midfavila>you'll never uninstall though
<midfavila>:3c
<sewn>I've used alpine for months before kiss
<midfavila>alpine is okay i guess
<sewn>I will uninstall if this doesn't work lol
<midfavila>im not a fan of it for desktop use
<midfavila>i dont mind kiss either but i think pm is more my speed these days
<midfavila>i do still like it though.
<sewn>what's pm
<midfavila>z3bra's "pack manager"
<midfavila>basically just takes a tarball, tracks what files it contains, and dumps its contents on the filesystem
<midfavila>doesnt build stuff, doesnt resolve depends, doesnt pull sources
<midfavila>just unpacks a tarball and installs its contents. you can check a manifest, uninstall, and upgrade/reinstall in place, and that's it
<midfavila>its like a few hundred lines of C
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<midfavila>holy shit its sadplan
<midfavila>:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
<midfavila>you should be happyplan
<sadplan>yep. i mustve killed tmux last time i sshd into the server for some reason. the config was also all borked, so I couldnt do much of anything :p
<sadplan>ive heard that one before :p
<midfavila>then clearly the people have spoken
* midfavilayaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawns
<midfavila>christ i need tea
<midfavila>brb
<midfavila>goal for today is getting wiringpi or equivalent up on the uconsole and testing tinymbim
<sadplan>and I dont intend to listen :p
<sewn>midfavila: ermm
<sewn>I mean if anything it'd just a tarball manager
<sewn>where do the tarballs come from
<sewn>how do you build
<midfavila>doesn't matter to pm. i'll probably end up doing something similar to what slackware does with slackbuilds
<midfavila>ive always liked how slackbuilds work
<sadplan>sewn: youd have to write a script for that stuff manually. which is kinda why I dont like pm. although it might make it more versatile, as users are more free to conjure up w/e solution they like themselfes
<sewn>that doesn't answer my questionss
<sewn>if your ystm is managed by pm
<sewn>where do you get your 'packs' from
<sadplan>youd have to create them yourself
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<sad_plan>build package -> create tarball -> use pm to install
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<midfavila>^
<midfavila>or get them from wherever assuming someone else made one
<midfavila>you could build by hand or using a script or w/e
<sad_plan>correct. kiss-bin could be an alternative, but I suppose every other binary distro would work technically
<midfavila>yeah but pm is in c and even smol-er
<midfavila>:3c
<sad_plan>so ironically, you could create your own ubuntu fork, but without apt
<sad_plan>kiss-bin isnt a command, but a repo. but its dead in the water afaik :p
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