[00:03:09] <GalaxyNova> midfavila you're alive
[00:03:10] <GalaxyNova> nice
[00:03:23] <midfavila> yes, for the time being
[00:03:54] <GalaxyNova> how's it going
[00:04:02] <midfavila> slowly
[00:04:07] <midfavila> finished moving the other day
[00:04:54] <acheam> where are you moving to?
[00:04:55] <GalaxyNova> oh wow
[00:05:10] <midfavila> moved in with some friends to split rent and other costs
[00:05:19] <midfavila> gonna be setting up the house's LAN this weekend
[00:05:45] <GalaxyNova> that's cool
[00:05:58] <GalaxyNova> you're in uni right?
[00:06:11] <midfavila> unfortunately not. just a private college
[00:06:24] <midfavila> i would have preferred to go to uni but the pandemic fucked me out of a year's worth of credits
[00:06:36] <midfavila> i've just been studying on my own when I have the time.
[00:06:44] <GalaxyNova> that too bad :(
[00:06:55] <GalaxyNova> studying what?
[00:06:57] <GalaxyNova> computer science?
[00:07:02] <midfavila> right now? mathematics
[00:07:30] <midfavila> i need to iron out some deficiencies in my basic skillset before I'll feel comfortable approaching the higher maths used in CS
[00:21:34] <zola> Does someone know what package provides aclocal?
[00:22:12] <midfavila> automake
[00:24:15] <zola> Thanks
[00:51:33] <GalaxyNova> damn cwm is really underrated
[00:51:53] <midfavila> you know what else is really underrated?
[00:51:53] <midfavila> twm
[00:52:02] <GalaxyNova> yes
[00:54:44] <GalaxyNova> http://0x0.st/-YAN.png
[00:55:05] <midfavila> That's a nice wallpaper.
[00:55:39] <GalaxyNova> :D
[00:56:17] <GalaxyNova> you use fvwm right?
[00:56:25] <midfavila> Haven't for a while.
[00:56:35] <midfavila> I've been using shodwm on my desktop and aewm on my laptop.
[00:56:47] <midfavila> Gonna probably take a crack at writing a wm once I'm done with K&R
[00:56:51] <GalaxyNova> oh interesting
[00:56:54] <midfavila> which will totally be Soon:tm:
[00:57:21] <GalaxyNova> Xorg will be obsolete by then 8-)
[00:57:39] <GalaxyNova> lol
[00:57:44] <midfavila> maybe
[01:15:44] <acheam> twm is eh
[01:15:56] <acheam> cwm is god
[01:17:46] <midfavila> a false god, perhaps
[01:18:15] <midfavila> https://ytprivate.com/watch?v=P0Ji2sxk0Uc
[01:19:27] <midfavila> i found this wm called yeahwm that I like the look of, but it hasn't been touched in like fifteen years
[01:19:50] <midfavila> prolly gonna reverse-engineer it and add my own tweaks to it
[01:19:57] <midfavila> shod has some interesting ideas
[01:29:03] <GalaxyNova> yeahwm reminds me of BeOS
[01:29:07] <GalaxyNova> and haiku
[01:29:09] <midfavila> yep
[01:29:14] <midfavila> that's why I'm interested in it
[01:29:24] <midfavila> i have a particular fondness for beos and its UI
[01:35:31] <acheam> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/coreutils/2021-09/msg00113.html
[01:36:06] <GalaxyNova> ew gnu.org
[01:36:08] <GalaxyNova> GPL website
[01:36:16] <GalaxyNova> smh
[01:36:28] <acheam> "more amalgamation of utilities"
[01:36:32] <acheam> very unix
[01:36:42] <midfavila> to be fair, GNU's not unix
[01:36:42] <GalaxyNova> GNU coreutils even have a "dir" command
[01:37:10] <GalaxyNova> dir command is the most cursed thing to use on linux
[01:38:16] <GalaxyNova> coreutils 9.0 is just adding even more GNU extensions
[01:38:48] <acheam> JuSt dOnT uSe ThEm, gAlAxYnOvA
[01:39:33] <GalaxyNova> lol I hate when people say that
[01:43:39] <GalaxyNova> https://libredd.it/pu1k55
[01:46:59] <midfavila> oh, I saw that a little while ago
[01:47:02] <midfavila> cool I guess
[01:47:06] <GalaxyNova> yeah
[01:47:12] <GalaxyNova> nice to see more support for linux
[01:47:27] <GalaxyNova> not that i would benefit from this change whatsoever
[01:47:35] * midfavila celebrates that they can now run proprietary DRM on a free software operating system
[01:47:55] <midfavila> at least I can shit on all the normies who say that linux can't play their games
[01:48:10] <GalaxyNova> if you have any kind of firmware blobs installed on your system it's the same thing as DRM
[01:48:45] <midfavila> good thing my laptop doesn't require blobs
[01:48:50] <GalaxyNova> thinkpad?
[01:48:54] <midfavila> toughbook.
[01:48:59] <midfavila> thinkpads are garbage.
[01:49:02] <midfavila> fight me.
[01:49:06] <GalaxyNova> lol why
[01:49:22] <midfavila> the quality post-IBM dropped dramatically, as did the repairability and upgradeability
[01:49:30] <midfavila> after using an IBM I can't go back to Lenovo
[01:49:34] <midfavila> i have PTSD
[01:49:41] <midfavila> post-thinkpad stress disorder
[01:50:03] <midfavila> i mean, like, imagine having to modify your BIOS just to install a not-shit wireless card
[01:50:11] * GalaxyNova cries in not having a laptop
[01:50:20] <midfavila> you're not missing out on a lot
[01:50:33] <midfavila> next mobile device I'm buying is a Reform and it's going to replace my laptop and phone
[01:50:46] <midfavila> e-ink screen and mechanical keyboard here I come
[01:51:29] <GalaxyNova> why not just use a calculator?
[01:51:30] <GalaxyNova> haha
[01:51:43] <midfavila> because I don't know nor do I care to learn Z80 assembler
[01:51:47] <midfavila> or TI-BASIC